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Episode 187: Gina

Season 13, Episode 4

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Gina
Age: 33
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Addiction: Heroin
What’s memorable: The mother, oh dear god the Mother. In contrast to Kaila, the other addict in this episode, no one watching this story would wonder for a second how or why Gina became an addict. A heroin addicted prostitute, to be specific. Not shocking. I feel nothing but sympathy for Gina and all she’s been through. Thank goodness her mother was able to see what she had done to her daughter and took responsibility for what happened.

Official Synopsis: Gina has spent her life living in the shadow of her domineering Korean mother, and it was not until she started using heroin that she was able to escape the most painful of her memories, being blamed by her mother for having been raped. Now, with absolutely no sense of self-worth, Gina will do anything to get her fix, even at the cost of losing her son.

Original Air Date: July 2013
Interventionist: Seth

Categories: Childhood Physical Abuse, Heroin, Rape, Season 13, Seth

Discussion

39 Responses to “Episode 187: Gina”

  1. My overriding feeling while watching Gina’s episode was sympathy for this poor woman. That mother is just unspeakably awful….and yet, I feel sorry for the mother, too, as she probably came from an equally poisonous home environment…and on the cycle spins… I send my sincere best wishes to Gina, who is clearly a lovely, kind and just….a nice and loveable person. Life has not been kind to her….but ANY life can have a “second act”! NO life is without hope. I so hope that she has remained on the “better road”. She deserves a happy “Act II”!

    Posted by Gregory Moore | October 21, 2014, 5:48 pm
  2. Amen Gregory. What a beautiful worthy young soul. My heart aches for what she’s been through. I just want to reach out and hug her. Her mom is so obviously the root of her problem. It’s hard not dislike her, but I am sure she has a similar back story. Unfortunately, she chose to pass that hurt along as so many do. Where as Gina did not pass the buck and just ran away and hurt herself. She is way stronger than her mother in my mind.

    I hope she and her son have nothing but a blessed life going forward.

    Posted by Beja | December 13, 2014, 8:54 pm
  3. I just watched this one. What a beautiful person Gina is, inside and out. I also was so impressed with her mother’s turnaround. Sometimes the parents can’t dig deep and apologize and admit they were wrong, and that is devastating. I feared she wouldn’t “get it” but she really pulled through. I hope for a healed relationship for them and wish them all the best.

    Posted by Kat | February 10, 2015, 9:24 pm
    • Also I think Seth was definitely the right guy for this one. He’s really good at calling parents out.

      Posted by Kat | February 10, 2015, 9:30 pm
      • So true. When I saw Seth calling out Gina’s mom at that meeting, I teared up a bit. He was probably the first person to stand up for Gina in years. You could see her sister’s reaction too. It seemed Gina was severely judged and scorned by that family for so long…but when an objective outsider called out the mom on national TV, it hit them like a ton of bricks.

        Posted by Carrie | July 7, 2015, 7:32 pm
      • I wish Seth could call my mom out. Gina’s episode hit me so hard in part because my mom is all criticism like Gina’s mom. My mom also blamed me for being raped. I turned to heroin to escape. I’m on methadone now but my mental health is still really suffering.

        Posted by Nicole | August 9, 2015, 6:20 am
  4. Agreed, regarding Seth. That is his specialty, working with the equally messed-up families of the addicts. He is always impressive, to me. Really glad to hear he’ll be back in the new season!

    Posted by Gregory Moore | February 17, 2015, 6:26 pm
  5. My heart absolutely broke for her, I hope she is still doing well

    Posted by Marie | February 18, 2015, 4:26 pm
  6. I pray that the woman and her mother are doing well,because that drug is a demon. GINA LET GO OF THE PAST, AND SPRING INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE GOD LOVE’S YOU AND I LOVE YOU TOO!! DON’T GIVE UP

    Posted by jovon | March 23, 2015, 9:35 am
  7. Just watched the episode with GINA. Such a sad and emotional episode. Watching Ginas mom apologize and take responsibility for her actions was truly amazing. I agree with JOVAN…..God bless you Gina!!!!! I hope you are well

    Also this site is fabulous Dizzy. I’ve been searching for a website about intervention forever!!!!!!!!!!
    THANK YOU

    Posted by Swanspeak | March 23, 2015, 8:16 pm
  8. I’ve know Gina for about 3 years now. I am also a dancer and I met her at a gentleman’s club in 2012 (after she got out of rehab). After the club shut down is when the episode aired. Last August I started working at another club and she happened to be there…she was sober for a little while but unfortunately she did relapse.

    Posted by Anonymous | April 10, 2015, 4:29 pm
  9. I am Gina’s cousin. Her name is not really Gina. She has not worked at a strip club since the program. The above comment is fake.

    Posted by Cindy | April 20, 2015, 9:06 am
    • The above comment is not fake. I currently work with her in Florida.

      Posted by Anonymous | April 20, 2015, 2:47 pm
    • It’s impossible for me to verify if what commenters here are saying is true or not. I just have to trust that people aren’t coming here to make stuff up.

      Posted by Dizzy | April 20, 2015, 3:22 pm
    • As far as I know, Gina has no cousins that would post online about this. Alonzo’s other children (not with Hyon) were never close to that side of the family, and there is only one family member that still communicates with Gina. I don’t know why you’d post such a comment on a forum.

      Posted by Oblivious | June 17, 2015, 5:49 pm
  10. Can we get an update on how the real Gina is doing. I think of all the intervention episodes I have watched, this one by far touched me the most. Would love to know how she is

    Posted by Nicki | May 20, 2015, 9:53 am
  11. Yes, her real name is Gina, she is in fact still in Florida. She was in a half way house briefly after treatment, but relapsed a couple months after the treatment ended. I’m unsure if she was using at the halfway house. The sisters still speak occasionally, Tristan is doing fine — still with Hyon. I wish that all the crap we went through to get her clean worked, but it didn’t. As far as I know, Gina is still alive and kicking.

    Posted by Oblivious | June 17, 2015, 5:42 pm
    • My best friend is also the youngest of two sisters, and her Korean mother came to America the same way. This touched my heart so deeply, and I can’t find an update anywhere online. You sound as if you would know how she is doing, I know this is an old episode but I just have to know how she is!! We have also worked in the entertainment industry… so many parallels to this story… there is nothing weak about having the illness of addiction. If you see this, can you please answer me? I pray that she is well and with positive people who care for her and her healing ❤️???????? Toni

      Posted by Toni Medina | March 7, 2017, 11:10 pm
  12. If Gina is reading this, she’ll know what my name means. It’s been 3 years since I met you and today was the first time I saw the show with you. It made me want to see how you were doing. Truly hope you might he reading this and doing ok.

    Posted by 5htp make me sick also | July 21, 2015, 10:58 pm
  13. I just watched this episode and really do wonder how Gina is doing. So many questions regarding her and I just pray that if someone know her out there have her read this to see how many people are concerned and really do pray for the best. I pray she can/do shake that Demon off!!!

    Posted by Monique | August 30, 2015, 10:26 pm
  14. I hope Gina is ok. I have a friend struggling with heroin addiction and it is purely awful! I know she said she had contracted Hepatitis C which is sad too. Her mother was just so cold and cruel.

    Posted by Sam | December 3, 2015, 2:08 am
  15. Gina has demons to work through. Her family, actually the mother, should be paying for her therapy. She has some work to do, but Gina, if you read this, never give up hope my darling. You can and you will stay sober and get your son back. Believe it. Big hug from Australia xx

    Posted by Silverblue | December 26, 2015, 2:28 pm
  16. Wondering how Gina is doing and the family if there anything I can do to help Gina email me God bless Gina

    Posted by Melody | March 7, 2016, 7:40 pm
  17. For those wondering….I see Gina a few times a week. We work together at a club in Florida. We speak on occasion. Interact a little during our shifts. I do not know her personally but from what I can see she seems to be doing much better than before.

    Posted by It's Not Important | October 2, 2016, 9:53 pm
  18. Please tell Gina that she has quite a few people who believe in her. She & her son deserve to be happy, more importantly they are both worthy of love ♡

    Posted by Lisa | October 23, 2016, 9:41 pm
  19. Omg!!! I watched this today and god knows my heart hurt for Gina I myself am a recovering addict of heroin from being physical abused from my brother and lose of my mother at 13 I am 51 by the grace of God I will have 4 years December 9. Seth Rock’s!! For calling out her mother. I pray Gina is on the right road of recovery. I would love to meet her or even talk to her. God bless her and her son.

    Posted by Erica | October 24, 2016, 1:08 pm
  20. Im watching this episode rn and im so pissed off!
    There is def something wrong with the”mother” of Gina.
    I so hope gina is well and she dont knw anythng about me but gina i hear ya! Sounds like our moms are the same kind of ppl.
    You can do this!

    Posted by Kori | March 7, 2017, 5:19 pm
    • Google “maternal narcissism” and you’ll find many articles explaining what Gina’s/my/your mom are all about. I’ve included one of my favorite articles that introduces the idea clearly and thoroughly. After my psychiatrist heard the stories and met my mom in person, he gave me an article about maternal narcissism and told me to research about it. It has made a world a difference for me to see that I’m not crazy, or making this up, or “just selfish,” there is nothing “wrong” with me and the reason she doesn’t love me unless it’s convenient for her isn’t because there’s something because I’m unworthy of love or because I’m worthless or because there’s deeply “wrong” with me. It is because people with NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) are incapable of any deep connection and have the emotional connectedness and maturity of a 6 year old. Like a child, it’s all about “ME ME ME MY MY MY I I I !!!!”
      when dealing with a person who has NPD. Here are some phrases my mom has said, some of which on a regular basis:

      – “Why can’t you just be normal like ME?”
      – “That’s MY dresser!” (About the dresser in my room. She says that everything is hers unless it explicitly belongs to someone else).
      -“You and Tyler are MY worst– I mean “most difficult” kids!” (She started to say worst then caught herself. But she’s not fooling anyone).
      – “Life is a stage and I’M the lead actress!”
      – “I’M so cute I don’t even need makeup!”
      – “I’M cute, smart and funny all in the same person!” (Her high school bf called her that 35 years ago and she still brags about it on a regular basis.)
      – “A 28 year old flirted with ME today on the chairlift cuz I…!” (No mom, you flirted with him even though you’ve been married for 30 years, and no you don’t look 24)
      – To a group of kids at church she said: “Being a stay at home mom is the best job in the world because I have autonomy, which means I can do WHATEVER I WANT cuz I’M in charge!”

      To her, being a stay at home mom isn’t about taking care of your kids, cleaning or cooking, or even just because she loves being around her kids. (We had a nanny come twice a wk for that, and if she wasn’t there, then I was). To her, being a stay at home mom means going skiing, hiking, or biking, Facebooking for many hours at a time, flirting with random guys age 14+ including my siblings and my male friends, volunteering at the local theatre my siblings were/are in plays at and posting pics on Facebook to show the world how charitable she is so she could get the accolades and attention she “deserves,” reading self help and church books so she can teach and preach to everyone else what they should do, and on occasion she might throw in typical mothering responsibilities, and when she does, she will say how ungrateful and selfish you are unless you graciously praise each and every tiny thing she does. Growing up as the oldest of 6, I was constantly berated for not babysitting my 5 younger siblings correctly starting from about age 8.

      Narcissists can appear to be excellent mothers due to their great acting ability, being fake comes natural. They enjoy mothering little kids, like Gina’s mom to her grandson (Gina’s son) because they don’t have their own identity yet and see themselves as an extension of their caretaker, and as such praise, adore, and admire them. But once they turn about 7-8, things change because developmentally they start to branch off and become their own little person. Narcissists need constant praise, adoration, and admiration. When they aren’t getting enough to fill their supply they will throw a childlike temper tantrum, often acting far less mature than the child in their care. My mom is a prime example of this. The older I got, the less interested in me she became. She was always more excited about the shiny new sibling that came along. Narcissists are known for playing favorites and playing their kids against each other. My mom used to throw us extragant themed parties – birthday, and other random holidays – so that she could get all the attention from other moms about how creative she is, how long decorating each penguin cupcake took, how painstaking it was to collect empty milk jugs from neighbors to make a life size igloo, how fun the Christmas white elephant was, how clever the April Fools Day trick menu with clues was, and how cute each decoration was… But somehow she managed to get more attention than the birthday girl/boy. Don’t even think about stepping into her spotlight, or you will be severely punished. Or tattle raped on to my dad. How he is still with her and still stands up for her 30+ years later I will never understand.

      I’m sorry to rant, as I know this site isn’t about maternal narcissism but about Gina and her heroin addiction, but I can’t help but wonder how her mother’s actions played a role in her addiction.

      Through research and lots of therapy, I am realizing l that it’s not all about her, and that what I was/still am going through with her isn’t “normal” and IS IN FACT ABUSE! Abuse in its must sublte and insidious form, and sometimes the invisible wounds cut the deepest. Hopefully this helps.

      TL;DR – google maternal narcissism if your mom is anything like Gina’s. And click on the link below on my name.

      Posted by Nicole | March 8, 2017, 11:37 am
      • Don’t ever be sorry for talking about your feelings and if I learned anything about Gina from her episode she would not mind you getting your feelings out on a post about her. In reading your post you come across as a very caring and intelligent young lady and it’s good to see that your mother’s behavior didn’t rub off on you and that you don’t act like her. I cried reading about how you were treated by your mother and not protected by your father and I would love to just be able to give you a hug. My name is Anjie and I’m a 47 year old recovering heroin addict and I thank God after reading your post that neither one of my parents had NPD. I’m going to put you in my prayers and just know that somewhere out there there’s a stranger that cares and is praying for you.

        Posted by Anjennette | October 24, 2017, 6:14 pm
        • Thank you for your kind words. I’m sorry I didn’t see them sooner! I’ve been having a really bad day and seeing what you wrote did help. Thank you!

          Posted by Nicole | April 6, 2018, 8:24 pm
      • I don’t know if I am a product of this psycological, catagorical description of a maternal nature but as I was reading a few things sounded familiar. My mother denied my abuse by stepfather while attending counselling between 14 and 15 years old and me having to raise myself and feed myself from 5 years old found that only leaving was going to remedy my situation. Even after my deabilitating automobile accident in which drug test results proved negative and car manufacturer on hook for defect, leaving me paralized at 21 she made it all about her, and I chose many substances to wallow in, but the truth is my friend that although I have had suffering at the hand of two addict parents, it is my choice to wallow in it or not. There are reasons for the dysfunctional and reasonably functional masses turning to chemical self-help but there becomes a time when it is no longer an excuse. As I lay here on my pressure sore stained with blood and pus soap box after 17 years in a chair struggling from homelessness currently and juggling pain meds like an idiot after years of treatment, bouts of sobiety lasting years and a propensity to relapse I realize that my life has been shaped more by my choices than anyone elses around me. My excuses are all failing me and even in a painful and broken body with an equally broken heart I know that I make or break every single day. When I stay in the moment and do the best I am (not can, AM) my world remains bright but my past and future are illusions- one is gone and the other exists only on a faint track in the sand of time if I choose to ignore it more so than predict or plan its bounty or struggle. One day at a time seems too cliche for the genius of I but I am responsible for a lot of dumb shit. Keep it simple… With love and light,

        Elizabeth Waters

        Posted by Sierralizzard217 | November 1, 2017, 11:02 pm
  21. I just saw this episode for the first time and oh my god my heart truly melted for this girl gina.
    The things she went through and hearing her mother admit to it and
    The way she blamed her for being raped at 14. Oh my god it brought me to pure tears. Its clear why this poor child was the way she was. She suffered so much. I pray that she is doing well and continues to have a better life.

    Posted by Byrdie Byrd | March 7, 2017, 6:08 pm
  22. Her mother should have beet in jail…any mother that allows a man to rape her child and blame her child should neverbe able to have children.

    Posted by Chris | October 24, 2017, 1:39 pm
  23. Just rewatched this episode, and I was reminded how sad I was for Gina, and how much I can see her mother in my own Grandmother and how she treated my mom growing up. First gen’s have it so hard. Crying is weakness. Showing love is weakness. Forgiving is weakness. But Gina is NOT weak. She is a beautiful person, and not alone.

    Posted by Jordy | November 1, 2017, 11:23 pm
  24. I felt so bad for Gina. What a brutal mother she has. I wonder why Gina would leave her son with such a woma.

    Posted by Scot hodson | February 17, 2018, 1:10 am
  25. So much to say on this one but I’ll narrow down to this:

    The mother has just earned the “Mother of the Year Award” from me……but in a whole new meaning and category.

    Can you really blame Gina entirely for her addiction? Certainly not in my opinion.

    Posted by kitty katt | April 6, 2018, 8:16 pm

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